You think its bad now – wait until middle school. Yea at first it was just about my kid, but then it was obvious it was bigger than one child. However, I don’t see a lot of parents staying with the magnet program if it moves a great distance from their house. How many principals still use the tag line “Every student will go to college,” or something to that effect or they recently got rid of that tag line… That is wrong… Students have different passions and college may not be their thing, but if all they hear is college this and you need that college, you start to tune parents and educators out. I have to agree with the poster who suggested this would just kill the magnet program. Today, this program is taking instructional space that is needed for children who live in the area. If we didn’t have this courageous blog, how much worse it would be. I definitely do not support the bond – IMO it is throwing good money after bad! Lakeside was born out of Briarcliff because of overcrowding. That might also allow an easier transition for the teachers that want to remain teaching within the program. The board’s make-up is very interesting and most of the board members side with Dr. Green which somewhat ties the hands of those in opposition. I’m not sure how the steering committee sees it.  2018-2019 Calendar. This is one reason I am leery about building multiple new school buildings. I believe county-wide redistricting and building at least one new high school are better long-term solutions. This, is about the county throwing ideas and seeing what sticks, just like spaghetti. I am selfishly a fan of Magnet program because I have 1 in it… and 1 I’ve been trying for 3 yrs to get selected. Maybe three. Ok so you redistrict. The windows were broken out and there was easy access through broken sidelights on the doors. If they build a Doraville high school, that would be a better location for the magnet in the north area and they could make it bigger. Typically they had to replace the wood floors where water got to the floor. Moving the magnet program would kill it – Allow me to play devil’s advocate, people will say that the Kittredge High Achievers Magnet School flourished after moving it across the county back in 2008. When would they close CMS? I am specifically talking about cost and timing info. Community See All. All 633 come from somewhere else. 8. What I have been trying to get for years from the county is this… How many magnet kids are ACTUALLY, CCHS resident kids that the county changes to “out of district” when they hit the magnet program? Stan, I agree with September’s comment that more information about the various options should be given to the public. I also have a chronic illness and still work full time, so I needed to live close enough to the school to be able to get my child there on time everyday. While you’re at it why don’t you inform everyone how you’re handling your side of 285 and acting like this side of 285 is the red headed step kid. The program is amazing and it is definitely worth the sacrifices we are making for our children to attend; however, if you keep moving it, we may not be able to keep out children in it. It would disrupt the lives of all those middle school kids, reshuffling them all over the place, as well as current high school students at other schools being shuffled drastically. The hyprocisy of this thread is astounding!! The list above also includes a plethora of private options. We all know that many DHS and LHS students go back to their home schools after CMS. Wasn’t SPLOST IV supposed to fix all of the athletic facilities? That equates into the “non-resident” kids that go to CCHS. This was originally put out in June 2015, for us to vote for SPLOST V in June 2016. My child didn't have any "locker issues" (at least that I know of). Its why things will never change for this dump of a school system. Please tell me how you can answer the question – how about the child that scores well enough to get into magnet, desperately wants to go to magnet, and pay taxes yet is NOT allowed to go to magnet because his/her name was not drawn out of the magic hat? West Forsyth HS (Forsyth). Your best bet is through a school, or cluster council and working with your regional superintendent. The School of Technology at Carver in Atlanta made the US News & World Report list. Perhaps move the current magnet more central and not down South and make it easily accessible to everyone. • Add capacity to Dunwoody HS and Peachtree MS That is not to say that this site does not value the views of everyone. Tucker parents will get their kids to the magnet program regardless of where it is. which would weaken his cluster. The Board is not interested in Districts 1 & 2 except to dilute what is perceived as white privilege. So until your children are sitting in a moldy trailer with no bathroom then the playing field is far from “fair” For three years now I have been keeping an eye on the signs and do not believe that it is active settling problem. 16. There is a lot of misinformation out there about the building and the land. However, the district is incapable of sharing current information with stakeholders. Be as un-transparent as possible and create as short a time span as possible for the community to weigh in. Take a way the magnet and it is just more discrimination against north DeKalb. I’m not at my computer. Ashford Park was built in 1955. I’ve yet to see anything positive proposed over on this side. We also did a study in 2011 or 2012 about what it would take to make Briarcliff a fully functioning high school again. Lakeside could use the relief. Before any other actions, we need Green out of the picture entirely. Thanks for all the updates and link to the latest survey. I think the latter option would be best as NCES is in a location that would best help with overcrowding at Montgomery ES. The distance isn’t an insurmountable issue. Move the MS program as well? Kittredge doesn’t have limits because it is magnet. “Vote for MegaSPLOST so we can shut down one of the few programs that brings state and national recognition to our school system” Make no mistake, moving the CMS/CHS magnet programs is shutting it down, because only 15-20% of the teachers, staff and students will move with it. Record, transcribe, summarize and monitor the factual accuracy of what is said in public by the DeKalb Schools board and administration. I know I go against the popular vote here by calling you to do your actual job, but I’ve watched this hot mess take place for far too long to care about what others think. I am against most of what is presented in the options, but decide for yourselves. North Oconee HS (Oconee) There is always so much “mess” going on that real prgoress for all of our students seems to get lost. You could add the Magnet program to Sequoyah and Cross Keys and run them together. You state that “The non-resident attendee matrix shows that 633 kids go to Chamblee High” Well if you take, the 160 that go from KMS to CMS every year until high school that is a total of 640 kids if you take 160 x’s 4. If approved it will be an additional 1 mill on your property taxes for the next 15 years. And as for Stacey’s comments – it was a HS in the past. We all know how horrible Atlanta traffic can be. I base this statement on many things in report I question the need to do. With gifted endorsement This way they can claim children are being serviced. We did the "shadow-for-a-day" Bridge program about a couple weeks before 6th grade began. People who are invested in the whole system excelling and succeeding. In reality, it is the half empty schools in south DeKalb that prevent the entire county from getting proper state funding. Tucker is a city. Briarcliff was the premiere school of DeKalb County during its heyday. I know that is the case for many families of special needs students. The centralized plan would move the magnet programs from both Chamblee High School and Chamblee Middle School to Avondale middle and high schools. Those options are so inadequate that I have a feeling that someone in Dekalb administration or on the board is trying to deliberately destroy education system in Chamblee community. Sure, you can dismiss my opinion as “If I can’t have it then no one else does.” But how about addressing the current issue of the existing magnet parents, “I got mine and if you don’t get it, then too bad.”. You have an Arts Magnet why not do something different for StEM and then keep Chamblee general Magnet where it is? Sorry. He’s been a valuable asset to the district.”. I for one hope Stan runs again. I’m a firm believer of expanding programs to meet student needs and that needs to be the core of our mission. Ever. Until then, we’ll continue to see our tax paying dollars making little difference. The power was on, as was the water. The problem is the schools up here are overcrowded and theirs aren’t. Thank you, Amy. Kennesaw Mountain HS (Cobb) So, while the “let’s just make sure everyone is gifted/high achieving is put in the same class” in theory is great, in practice, its not happening. Check out. How does one redistrict Doraville/Chamblee/Dunwoody/Brookhaven?? You know what really sucks about this entire magnet conversation? Doesn’t south Dekalb already have a magnet program (Wadsworth)? Incentivize/Recruit gifted-certified teachers for every school. Briarcliff is larger and is built in the the manner you would build a new high school today. You already ignore this side of your district, so now you’re trying to move our kids out of our own neighborhood schools? Nope, bc the have attendance limits they can control. As you’ve stated @Stan the magnet program isn’t a lego piece you pick up and move – it is students and teachers. We are doing the kids a disservice by not having votech classes at every school or not even funding the ones we have correctly. I’ll try to get that out Monday morning. Magnet program? As I stated in my prior comment if you take the 160 kids that come from KMS and multiply that by 4 you get 640. I am supportive of #2-4 (which I believe addresses point #1 by removing access downsides without foolishly discarding effective elements). Maybe. If you need to move this program, place it in central Dekalb in an area where it is easily accessible to everyone. Stan can explain this better than I, but the state reimburses better , to a point, when schools are run efficiently. The transportation issues will become untenable for students in the Chamblee neighborhood. I don’t anticipate most of those teachers will want to move. The school building was built less than 15-years ago, so the facilities and classrooms are among the best in the county. High achievers are easier to identify, just look at grades and test scores. And no one wants to do anything about it. Teachers – The idea of moving the magnet is to fill those open spots at CCHS with resident students, so CCHS will still need teachers. Browse 1,576 verified apartments for rent near Chamblee Middle School (3601 Sexton Woods Drive, Chamblee, GA) and submit your lease application today! What I meant to write was even though Stoneview ES has gotten more maintenance, deferred maintenance, and preventive maintenance than any other school (by a wide margin), and is scheduled to get a new parking lot, the FCA score went down between 2016 and 2018. Does it sound fair to Tom? Would you put these kids on buses for an hour or more? One has a skewed view of K-12 education if their primary lens is that of DeKalb, other metro Atlanta school districts and the many good privates’ schools in this area. My kids went to the Brown’s Mill ES and Miller Grove MS magnets and they fed into SW DeKalb at that time. Interesting. Maxwell High School of Technology (Gwinnett) Can we have a healthy and constructive discussion about this? Unless you’ve had a kids in NORTH DEKALB and can see the difference between what a magnet 4th grader receives at Kittredge vs. what a similar gifted child receives at (Ashford Park/Montgomery/Huntley Hills/Dunwoody/etc. My little hometown in Ohio only has 24,000 residents and have for years run their own exceptional school district. @dekalbteacher, Rock Chapel ES (40.43 ) I would definitely go private if this changed happened. So WHO is that person, who is trying to bring feud to Chamblee community: to divide people and push their agenda. High. Hopefully we’ve all learned our lesson with SPLOST V that it is ridiculous to approve any additional funding without a detailed roadmap for every penny as opposed to writing another blank check to DCSD. I hate to tell you, but magnet classes are smaller. Steering Committee Meeting Presentation out, too, and all their assistants. I am a Chamblee teacher of fifteen years, and a parent of a current student. Nope. And yes, if one family can’t have the magnet, then NO ONE SHOULD. The result would be that 4 of the school board members would be happy to see that. They keep the property tax rate as low as possible, ensuring the schools are not funded properly. Others are related to board members or members of the same organizations. Who says it is inappropriate for Green to fill the open positions? I would check with your school specifically It’s a cheaper route in education. This middle school has a total enrollment of 811 students with approximately 60 full-time teachers.It has a student to teacher ratio of about 14 students per teacher.The average student-teacher ratio for Dekalb County is 15 to 1. Hawthorne Elementary School. My eldest was one of the “lucky” ones winning lottery in 4th and is now a rising 9th gr heading to CCHS. I think your impression of the magnet program is either very outdated or just delusional. By the time kids reach high school, lots of families have either a) moved to another region or b) transferred to private schools to get the education that was so inferior in the earlier grades vs. the magnet program. Its time for us to create city school systems. However, I have watched neighborhood families carpool for 8 years. Arabia Mountain is the ” crowning jewel” of DeKalb high schools. Set it up as if it’s a small college-like campus. I’ve seen some terrible things, terrible things…. It seems to me that people who don’t want their schools to be overcrowded, don’t want trailers or additions to their schools, don’t want magnet programs moved, and don’t want to be redistricted are missing the big picture. Option 2B should read: Shutdown Chamblee MS/HS Magnet Program. It’s a brilliant idea to build on the former Briarcliff site. Why didn’t they pay attention to those students several years ago? The Superintendent doesn’t consult me when deciding which trailers to replace. Sigh. Sagamore Hills E.S. I do believe a Doraville HS makes sense. @ShanaSmith, there’s no hard date to move the program. Gee, it would have been nice if she had asked about how taxpayers would be informed. The panel said that Chamblee High School and Chamblee’s magnet program are technically separate programs, despite being housed in the same building; and the charter would only apply to Chamblee High School. @LoseTheMagnet, The board wants to put a magnet at the new Cross Keys High School. When we have administration telling parents their kids need to leave our school and go to Dunwoody “because he’s not making progress here and there is nothing we can do about it” you’ve got bigger issues to deal with. Engineering types love to work on cars and technology. Yeah, there may still be corruption, but you will spot it faster, it won’t be able graft so much money and resources and there will be nowhere for non-performing, budget-draining employees to hide. Druid Hills 69.1, 68.3, 64.5, 77 It is also on a main MARTA line. Without that information this is an exercise in futility. That is logistically stupid. KMS kids could use STEM labs, auditoriums,etc. Schools are not meant to last that long. But is there any notice about this on the DCSD website? Is there anyone who disagrees (I’m open to all POV’s here)? Steering Committee Meetings I can’t see why you say get rid of one thing, but yet it is ok to keep another? Steering committees discussed the pros and cons of the following four potential options to address current and pending capacity needs. We should open one there in addition to having the Chamblee Charter HS magnet. I think you should consider a softer transition. Why shouldn’t parents fight to stay in the school they are invested in? It is time we “track” all our students. Because of that, any time a DCSS proposal comes our way, we are inclined — without even knowing the facts — that it’s a thoughtless and pointless one that will not better learning in any way. But time and time again this county school district has done only 2/3 of whatever the hell it wants. I know the county hates the magnet program, but that’s beyond ridiculous. This is not out of the realm of possibility because if teachers win the lawsuit regarding retirement, the school system will go broke. – Some people theorize that it will help alleviate overcrowding in the North and help fill empty seats in the South. Yes. You make sacrifices if you feel that your home school is not what you think your child needs. The magnet program is still subject to all of the stupid stuff DeKalb does. I really feel we need to look at regional options to satisfy all levels of need from Magnet to Spec Ed. The school building was built less than 15-years ago, so the facilities and classrooms are among the best in the county. Not Now. Chamblee Middle School is a diverse but balanced and inclusive community. I am fed up. Don, you might be right about gym floor. If that’s true… what does her curriculum look like? The non-resident attendee matrix shows that 633 kids go to Chamblee High that otherwise wouldn’t go there, but for the magnet program. They shouldn’t have to squeeze into 20+ trailers.’ and then turn around and say, ‘oh, but don’t you dare take away our special magnet program building that’s in your neighborhood to relieve your pain. He admitted to me that the school system had done poor maintenance. Enter your email address to stay in the loop and get new posts via email. 12. Options Developed To Address Capacity Needs, Secondary School Facility Planning and Feasibility Study The Magnet suggestion is the polar opposite. Instead, they have strategically selected a project in every district as an incentive for BOE members and the public to support paying more taxes. • Standardize grade levels for choice programs to provide clear K-12 path. We did the "shadow-for-a-day" Bridge program about a couple weeks before 6th grade began. Additionally, as a member of the CCHS CAC, DCSD has not involved us one bit in the addition process indicating to me their total lack of concern for our input. All of Sagamore Hills and some of the Druid Hills area were sent to Briarcliff. I know you know what’s going on but by all means please keep focusing on infrastructure….. The FCA scores are in parenthesis. Especially those who don’t have students in DCSD schools. However, instead of just a lottery application, they indicate that you can directly enroll in their program. Oh wait – I just re-read this, “Dan Drake, interim Chief Operating Officer (COO)” … well, there’s your problem! Forgot account? And for what? I graduated from Shamrock High school (now Druid hills MS) and i like the idea of converting back into a high school.  2019-2020 Calendar You are correct about all new A/C. The principal is extremely responsive and supportive. We need a magnet program in both SW Dekalb and North Dekalb. We are close enough in distance to Chamblee to feel like our son would still be attending school in our community. Only students living in the Chamblee attendance zone would be allowed to attend the charter school, with a few exceptions. 2016 data due out any day and expected to be even more positive. My point is, your link is outdated. Yes, this school district is very corrupt and very broken – and has been for a few decades. Our school is also filthy because our Principal holds no one accountable for doing their job. A big-district break-up would do wonders for most of the students in DeKalb. @stanjester as long as it doesn’t affect your side of town it’s a bunch of words on a blog. -can you please explain further your comment about the board driving the move the magnet idea – who specifically? Now they are talking about taking the 9th graders and pulling them out to a separate school?  2019-2020 Calendar So many of the people making six-figure salaries and poor decisions pre-date Green.  Enrollment and Capacity “We’re in the posture of restoring confidence from a community, internally with our stakeholders. Do not just shuffle them all over town for a short term fix.  Facility Condition Assessments,  stanjester@gmail.com Magnet success – Many people, including district school board members, believe the successes at Chamblee Charter HS are a result of something the school district is doing for CCHS that they are not doing for the other magnets. Newt Gingrich communications director Susan Meyers, Atlanta Pediatrician Little Five Points Pediatrics, String Tennis Racket – Dunwoody, Chamblee, Brookhaven, Sandy Springs, Million staffing covid Jackson Healthcare, Jackson Healthcare connect state contract connect insider Governor Brian Kemp political staffing, Jackson Healthcare connect million staffing, Jackson Healthcare COVID insider connection Geoff Duncan Kemp million,  DeKalb Schools Maps Electrical will also have to be redone. Chamblee Magnet Program – Is it moving? 3. That is why I still advocate for Midvale even though my children are in college. Also – as we’ve also said for years on the blog – Dunwoody is a city. Another way to starve the school system until it relented to the county’s citizens would be to have the law changed to shift the funding source away from property taxes. Out of your diatribe, you make one coherent point that I agree with – if the magnet is truly for people who come from bad environments, then the argument should be to place it in the part of the county that has those issues. I can think of at least 20 or more. http://www.dekalbschoolsga.org/projects/operations/fca/former-briarcliff-hs.pdf. If you want to reduce magnet program locations from 2 to 1, then make it centrally located. In Chamblee, especially after the terrible debacle of the prior principal, DCSS is not trusted. All this being said I will vote no unless a complete audit of DCSD occurs. The last time I checked, Kittredge had 6, total. My daughter’s experience at our home elem has been basic at best, and I’m kind of freaking out as we are weeks away from Peachtree. In SPLOST IV, Wadsworth got a new school. This all seems ridiculous and a threat. North Gwinnett HS (Gwinnett) Brookwood HS (Gwinnett) How have the 7 regions improved outcomes for students? 674 people follow this. Wow. There is no wait list for Wadsworth. Having lottery Magnet is unfair already, Initiative Love the idea of transitioning to a 8th-12th magnet at the new site of the Cross Keys HS. July 13, 2016 – Any truth to the rumor of moving the magnet program from Chamblee Middle and Chamblee High? The name Kittredge is still on several signs. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but these issues have languished in DeKalb schools for several decades. Not getting state dollars that are available due to an unwillingness to redistrict will make things more expensive. So, Nick, are you implying that if the magnet program was related from Chamblee HS that the school would not continue to be a “crown jewel”? Please do not relocate the Chamblee Magnet program. lol) – where are you going to place all of those middle school students? 4. Nicole. The district repairs only the squeakiest of wheels in the north end of the county. https://www.dekalbschoolsga.org/building-spaces/#tab-b6766642745cf064a10. This doesn’t appear to be a viable option for the same reason the school district isn’t considering a satellite campus instead of the Lakeside High School (LHS) building additions. NOW. We moved before we got to that program but most of their classmates did attend at that time. As of the recent FTE in October 2018, Chamblee’s enrollment is 1722. DCSD uses the mixed model of gifted education in the middle schools. The Chamblee cluster would consist of Chamblee Charter High School, Chamblee Middle School, Montgomery Elementary School, Dresden Elementary School, and Huntley Hills Elementary School. 01/16/2016 – Redistricting the Cross Keys Cluster To Stan and the rest of the board, let’s be honest about this. Making “threats” to get what the Superintendent wants only proves he can’t make a good “case” for his decisions. Don’t put it in the southern corner of the county and claim it serves everyone. Ashford Park could retire right now if it were a human being. As long as you have some gifted kids in there and it is taught by a gifted teacher, it can be claimed as a “gifted/high achiever” class. I am of the opinion that if the resident population is exceeding the capacity of Chamblee and surrounding schools attendance zones, the magnet program should be moved to a more centralized location, i.e. How exactly is that fair? As for a hiring and keeping qualified staff when you have an HR department that cannot keep a leader for any period of time it is hard to make positive changes in hiring and employment issues. Look under the data tab. More classroom space is needed at Chamblee Charter HS. It would also more than pay for a redo of Briarcliff. I’m not a fan of the attitude, “If I can’t have one then nobody can have one”.   Public Meetings on Redistricting OptionsÂ, “Power concedes nothing without a demand. Because that results in hundreds of millions of dollars in additions to schools that don’t have room for them. Students in the Magnet Program for High Achievers matriculate from Chamblee Middle School’s magnet program or are selected via a lottery, which … The trick is to keep the magnet program at risk so that everyone is fighting about it and not really paying attention to the horrific big picture. Austin Elementary is awful. There are similar populations of certified gifted in some Dunwoody schools as in some of the blended magnet schools like CMS. @Lose the Magnet… I am trying to figure out what matrix you are looking at. http://factchecker.stanjester.com/2016/03/6282/. @Lynn King – The German program at Ashford Park is yet another boneheaded program that is only going to make matters worse at Chamblee Middle School. We have argued, fought and debated the very same issues. If you get rid of the magnet, you can push some of DHS into CCHS. @AnnT, I’d like to commend you on your comments. Help Mr. Johnson get the tools they need by supporting their classroom. The entire BOE needs to come sit in on some of our five hour IEP meetings to really grasp what these flippant decisions really do to ALL of the kids. Nearby Schools. Don – that link I provided above is a report about the Briarcliff property dated May 20, 2016, so it would be the most recent. The administrators do not want to make any hard decisions; they are gambling on the parents’ infighting to get their way. Doesn’t SW DeKalb still have a High achiever Magnet program in place? Please do not refer to our babies as “those kids”. Granted, the only skin I have in this game is I pay property taxes in DCSD. We did the "shadow-for-a-day" Bridge program about a couple weeks before 6th grade began. 1. The boss of the central office is the superintendent. Doraville is a city. And what would you do to remedy it? It is a broken system and needs to be repaired. Briarcliff also has easy access to the expressway system. 7. July 18, 2016 – The study will identify the challenges and opportunities facing each middle school and high school, determine options to address the needs identified, and prepare regional master plans to implement the options. • Utilize former Briarcliff site. How about some transparency? I can’t even imagine the drive across the county and back. She LOVED the school. Not because they aren’t awesome, but rather they aren’t given enough time and resources. When people see the way that the MAG study was handled and plans to bring consultants in at high salaries, it is hard to trust. Could you imagine this same school district only offering 1-2 AP courses (if any) with few options for dual enrollment? I may change my mind if the administration presents better options. Brookhaven is a city. While Kittredge affects schools in Dunwoody, Oakcliff and Warren directly affect the overcrowding at Carey Reynolds. • Create STEM middle & high for Stone Mountain area? When you consider the number of services that DeKalb offers compared to many of the other over 100 school districts in this state, the district looks very good. Dan used SPLOST as an open checkbook to fix knee jerk reactions. @Lose the Magnet. Yes. These are the public high schools on that list >> Exactly what I meant “Time to leave … ” when I said, “Enough money stays in the north (laughably called the ‘white’ end of the county) to keep people arguing among themselves and fighting over the scraps…” The administration is baiting you. I disagree. Emory U. would pay a handsome sum for that property. If your school has 8% gifted, you need a more challenging environment and should be eligible for a way out. Druid Hills is the landlocked school that can’t park its faculty and students. Capital projects are 80% political. There is far more land at the old Briarcliff site (as well as a football stadium, a public park and school district tennis courts) than there is at Lakeside – and there are 2,400 students attending that can of sardines! The thought behind the move would be to kill two birds with one stone. How about replacing the old Briarcliff HS building with a state of the art facility. 11. Chamblee Charter High School, also known as Chamblee High School, is a public secondary school located in Chamblee, Georgia, United States.As of 2010, it serves 1512 students in grades 9-12. Does really well for the social atmosphere at that place. Johnny Brown told us that tech schools were ‘racist’ because he thought they ‘tracked’ black kids (apparently, he thought that unlike white and Hispanic kids, ALL black kids should go to college).

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